hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".
many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.
me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.
OMG, Bang, now were going to argue about what a "GOD" is? The bible isn't talking about rolex watchs or houses. I swear, PEOPLE WILL ARGUE ABOUT EVERYTHING!
Were not talking material things, were talking about GOD. Not the false ones, not the true ones, not the lesser ones or the greater ones. Just GOD. There is ONE GOD, none other. I mean, really, you COULD call your cat a GOD, but is it?
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
why did jesus do miracles?.
it is alledged that some 2000 years ago a man claimed to be the son of god , or even god himself (depends what religion you are).. in order to give some weight to his cliam he did some miracles, cured a few lepers, made a slap up lunch out of some fish and bread, and took a walk on some water.. all this to prove he was gods son.. but to prove it to who?.
if you ask a witness why god doen't perform miracles today , what do they say.. we don't need miracles today we have it all written in the bible.. der.
Well I have been holding out, but can take it no more. I know you guys are going to thrash on me for this, but I have witnessed miracles. Yes, it is true, I am not joking.
When explained to my JW in-laws, they simply chalked it up as "Satans Work".
Lets dissect the topic:
1)An Athiest obviously will not believe in a miracle. If there is no God, NO miracle.
2)Christians believe in God, no matter what religion you are in, whether its 1, 3 or many, like YK believes. Through Jesus, we know that God performed miracles. God is God, then as he is now.
3)What is a miracle? Do we have to see it for it to be there? How do we know that miracles aren't taking place every single day? I have heard of JW's needing blood to live, refusing the blood and still living anyway. Coincidence? or Miracle?
4)A miracle I witnessed. I know you will scoff at me, but here goes. This is a true event that I witnessed and only one of many miracles that have happened.
About 12 years ago, when I was still attending church, a friend of mine from school started to come to church. After awhile his dad started to come also. His dad has his own construction business.
A couple of months later, the dad fell off a scaffolding when he was at work. He fell 30 feet to pavement and broke his back. It put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, according to doctors.
A couple of months went by and this man kept on coming to church. He seemed very sincere and wanted to serve God.
(For those of you who do not know what a Pentecostal service is like, I will briefly explain. Usually it goes like this. Singing first, testemonials, more singing and playing the instruments(organ, piano, guitars, drums, sometimes sax, trumpet, hermonica, whatever, tamborine...) clapping, prayer requests, then preaching, then alter service, or alter call(where you bow down at the alter and pray or stand with your arms up, palms up and pray.) You can almost always feel the presence of God at sometime, or the whole entire time, during the service. )
Well, one Sunday night the service was extremely powerful. You had goosebumps and such a great feeling of joy just being there.
Make a long story short, this man wheeled his way up to the pulpit, in the middle of this great service. The Pastor and the Deacons immediately started to pray for this man. Music is going, everybody singing, clapping, WORSHIPPING GOD, PRAISING GOD and I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes, this man stood up and threw that wheelchair to the side and WALKED! He walked up one isle and down the next, back and forth praising God the whole time. Oh, it was so sweet. Tears of joy ran down this guys face, his wife and kids shocked. IT REALLY HAPPENED.
There have been other times, with other people, that nothing has happened. I suppose God has his reasons for everything.
So, mock me if you may, I don't care, I saw it.
Maybe you are thinking "I've seen this on TV, IT's fake". I would agree that the TV stuff is fake. I grew up with all these people, know these people very well and I know there is no "fake" stuff going on, not in this church anyway.
One more small miracle that happened to me. When I was 16-17 years old, I was out of the religion. I smoked. One service I prayed through, asked God to remove the habit from me, and immediately I had no cravings. I did not have one temptation. Unfortunately, I went astray, left the church and nine months later at the State high school football championship game, after we won, I smoked again. I am 29 now and still smoke. Yes, I need another miracle.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
i was wondering if i am considered one by the wt defintion.
i have never been a jw in my life but i disagree with their doctrine.
are all the "worldies" considered "apostates" or just the ex jws?
If its true you have to be baptized, and then rebel, to be an apostate, then would this only apply if you were baptized a JW? I was baptized twice, once as a Catholic(baby) and then later in a Pentecostal church. So maybe I am Double Apostate Man!
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
what the hell is a p.b & a or p.p & a?.
it was a joke!
and you fell for it like the fascists you are!
FUN-E!!! I also had TWO P B and J's for din din tonight.
There is also PB&J Otter, a cartoon.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
i was wondering if i am considered one by the wt defintion.
i have never been a jw in my life but i disagree with their doctrine.
are all the "worldies" considered "apostates" or just the ex jws?
4christ, I have never been an JW, never will be. My name suggests that I was. However, my understanding was that ANYTHING not related to "them" was apostate. Its one of those words that they like to sling around, which is why I chose it.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
mrmoe got me thinking... is it just me, or does a disproportionate number of apostates smoke?.
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"as every one knows, there are mistakes in the bible" - the watchtower, april 15, 1928, p. 126 .
Actually Scully, when I was in Vancouver B.C. back in 1997, the cigs at that time were $6.00 Canadian. Here in the States they were $3.25. Now, where I live, in the US, they are $5.55 - $6.00 A PACK! Unless you go to a Smoke Shop, ran by Indians, and there around $4.00, but usually are 2 months old.
THATS IT!!!! I'm quitting to. For the 7th time. (After this pack)
Most important is to NOT HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST OF DRAGS FROM ONE, even a month or two down the road. You are not truley over the habit until you have gone at least two years without one.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
> > > > this is really fun and very accurate.
and it takes 2 minutes.. > > > >.
> > > > take this test for yourself...and send it to your friends, including.
I scored a 40, which out of the possible answers, that answer best describes me.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
ok - i'm still fairly new here so don't throw tomatoes......... but what is the "unseen apostate directorate" that i see on some of your signature lines?
i'm curious.
Actually, to be a member you need a black suit and a pair of black sunglasses, and of course one of those little zap-in-your-eye-forgetful-things.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
in the questions from readers section, the question was: "would it be advisable for a true christian to attend a funeral or a wedding in a church?".
to analyze this wonderful piece, i'm going to use their words, and translate them into real english.. "being in a group where everyone else is engaging in a false religious act, a christian may find it difficult to resist the pressure to join in.
how unwise to expose oneself to such pressure!".
There must have been an "imaculate conversion" going on, with all the funerals these days and such, for the All Seeing Eye(WT) to once again revoke your right to do as you choose.
I mean, really, they must have found out how much people worship false Gods and all at funerals. That's all I ever did at a funeral.
Break the chains that bind you,
unless, of course, you're into that sort of thing.
